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TR - Point Perp multipitch sport 9-May-2013 At 4:35:44 PM Nick Clow

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> why do you have the idea the point was ever envisaged as "bolt free"?

Because it was. It might be news to you, but the original persons who established routes (I hate the word 'developers') at The Point wanted it to be a no-bolts area. They went about the business of climbing routes (mostly ground up) with no bolts and they wanted it to stay that way.

As I said previously, I did a fair amount of climbing at the Point between 2000 and 2004 (before there was a guidebook, other than photocopied pages being passed around.) In retrospect I suppose I should be grateful for having experienced the place at that time.

I really, really cannot comprehend your comments about selfish trad climbers! Whatever dude, planet Thargon at 6 o'clock.

For the record, I am not anti-Neil (especially). I have done some of his routes only recently and several were good. Unfortunately, some others were, I feel, a big mistake.

The only thing that sport climbers are being asked to do is not place bolts next to natural placements. Good grief, is it that too much to askt?

Just going by the photo topo, I find it surprising that Neil can rap down that wall and not see a line of weakness, a natural line. Instead he sees the anti-lines and gets busy with his drill to 'create' sport climbs. It doesn't make sense to me, climbing has turned upside down. As someone once said (Royal Robbins?) sport climbing is the child that wants to eat its mother.