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TR - Point Perp multipitch sport 7-May-2013 At 3:56:33 PM rocksinmyhead
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On 7/05/2013 Nick Clow wrote:

>I don't even really understand your comments in the context of the thread.

um, your post suggested you didn't get who likes multipitch sports climbs. I do. I'm grateful to those who put them up, it's hard work.

>What I actually said about Neil's routes is that they won't be repeated
>very often. Are you saying they will??

Nope, got no idea, but I'm curious as to your zest for my answer.

>If I had been critical about these routes I would have mentioned the fact
>that it would seem to the casual observer that there is a promising-looking
>natural line staring out of Neil's topo, starting from the L of the picture
>at the flake, going up to the R, following the L of weakness up the R of
>the photo and finishing up the crack visible high up the climb. It’s possibly
>surprising that sport routes have been established over the top of it.

Okay, but you could have said so straight up, instead of mumbling about "quality". If you had, I would have thought maybe you had a point, but then if the line's was so promising as a mixed or trad route, why wasn't it climbed yet? Was anyone else keen on climbing it as such?
>
>Anyway, ignoring the complete fluffiness of your comment, I have no problem
>with it.

Geez, thanks!

>What I do have a problem with is Windjammer Wall being grid-bolted
>and other indiscriminate bolting taking place at the Point and elsewhere....
>
Okay, but then hassle Neil (or whoever's responsible) about this.

>Some checks are needed to ensure that (some of) the character of Point Perp is retained and that he (and others) doesn't make similar mistakes to sticking a sport route up the middle of an already over-crowded, classic 'mixed' slabby wall (Sweet Dreams Wall).

That's a fair point, but a poor example. Sweet Dreams is the most overated peice of crap I've ever had the misfortune to be dissappointed by.

>The place doesn’t need turning into a gym

Agreed! But by your own logic, adding a multiplitch sport route with abseil access isn't likely to do that.

>I would not be going to the Point to repeat a sport route, that's not why you go there.

That's your choice. But I would. Or for some of the awesome natural lines as well. Being able to choose between both is great. What do you get out of avoiding the sport routes?

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