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TR - Point Perp multipitch sport 7-May-2013 At 2:36:49 PM Nick Clow

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Sorry, but that's a blythe, fluffy and condescending response. This, in particular, is a little bit sickening:

> I also love Neil, Mikl, Mark and others for going out there and investing their time, money and energy to bolt these routes, for my enjoyment. If you're reading this, thanks.

I don't even really understand your comments. What I actually said about Neil's routes is that they won't be repeated very often. Are you saying they will??

If I had been critical about these routes I would have mentioned the fact that it would seem to the casual observer that there is a promising-looking natural line staring out of Neil's topo, starting from the L of the picture at the flake, going up to the R, following the L of weakness up the R of the photo and finishing up the crack visible high up the climb. It’s (possibly) surprising that sport routes have been established over the top of it.

Anyway, aside from the complete fluffiness of your comment above, I do not have no problem with it. What I do have a problem with is Windjammer Wall being grid-bolted and other indiscriminate bolting taking place at the Point and elsewhere. The insight into Neil's mind above is quite disturbing and it's obvious that he has no control over his bolting habit.

Some checks are needed to ensure that (some of) the (remaining) character of Point Perp is retained and that he (and others) don't make similar mistakes to sticking a sport route up the middle of an already over-crowded, classic 'mixed' slabby wall (Sweet Dreams Wall).

I haven't been to the Point since 2010, but I climbed there extensively between 2000 and 2004. One of the nice things about it was that it was basically a trad area and you could go there and avoid too many people and too many bolts. I went quite a long time without clipping any bolts as the area is highly unusual in having so many wholly trad lines. The place shouldn't be turned into a gym and I would not be going to the Point to repeat a sport route, that's not why you go there.