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TR: Alive in a Bitter Sea (Katoomba Cliifs) 7-Dec-2016 At 4:20:23 PM Jayford4321

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simes
>If first ascentionists are not willing to meet the challenges of the cliff
>by going ground-up (like say Tobin Sorenson did on Tjuringa at Arapiles)
>then they should think twice before bolting selfish, egotistical, run-out
>climbs from rap.

macca
>Well that might have worked in the old days on trad climbs but with bolted stuff these days its quite a bit different.
>If FA's aren't prepared to at least run it out a little in the easier sections then they really should think twice before creating more overbolted overcautious consumer crap..

Ya both blowin ya trumpetz.
Bring back the retreat I say.
Nothin wrogn with good old ground up absqueel retreat from a hi point if the climb gets tha betta of U, coz it nockz tha ego bak in2 shape, an savz all tha hard work of tha ovaboltin runout killin crap.