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Ravine, Olive Crags - Locked Gate 24-Feb-2009 At 8:10:53 PM JamesMc

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On 23/02/2009 access T wrote:

>The gates. These have been installed by Parks Victoria to help control
>the numbers of people now accessing the area. Climbers and other park
>users can still access these areas but it will have to be by foot. This
>was not a negotiable action - PV are in a position where they must respond
>to all park users. Other options could have had a far more negative impact
>on our community.
>

>
>Tracey

What IS negotiable? Taking two years to reopen Rosea was ridiculous. What has being achieved by trying to negotiate access with Parks Victoria?

Sure Tracey maintains good relations with PV, but if they want to place obstacles in the way of access then they just do it - "Not negotiable".

Someone with a 4wd or a winch should just rip the gate out.

Perhaps we need to give up talking to the Parks Victoria and go straight to the minister. My observation as a public servant myself is that decisions get made by ministers who are scared of losing votes.

JamesMc