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Retrobolted anchors - Witch and Wishful Thinking 12-Dec-2018 At 11:47:49 AM Duang Daunk

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On 12-Dec-2018 dalai wrote:
>On 12-Dec-2018 JDB wrote:
>>Ironically there is plenty of gear above Boogie, but no one
>>is fussed with the lower off on that route. So would there be as much
>indignation
>>if a lower off was installed instead of hangers?
>
>Already saddened Boogie went from 2 bolts when I first climbed it to how
>many now?
>
>And yes still indignation by many including me if they were loweroff's
>rather than hangers!

So bro, if Boogie has suffered retroing over time and presumably it wasn’t for legitimate safety reasons like having pro at a strategic location to prevent decking out? ... And you are aware of this retrofitting, why not clean that up at the same time as stubs removal off Witch?

Bro JDB also wrote:
>I think this scenario should be a red flag for all climbers; as there is a huge influx of new climbers eminating from the burgeoning indoor gym industry, who are heading outdoors without a good understanding of the 'ground rules'. So how are this next generation of sport climbers going to be educated?

They already are educated.
“Like, that gym blue route was reset tha otha day; man it’s nails now!”
Leads to...
“Going to Camels Lump to practice getting stronger outdoors, but that Boogie Route is a bit gnarled and could do with a reset!!”