We were using simon carter/neil monteith book, 2016 i think. No mentuin of the track being permanently closed, apart from the second gate onwards. We deceided to check it out late the night before, had no phone reception so we couldnt have checked the crag if we wanted.
We met two other climbers on our walk back down. They said they had also seen the 4x4 track and thought about using it, i bring this up as if you werent aware of any permanent closure and saw the track and had a capable vehicle it seems like the logical choice. It looks like a parks track that has been there for years, not a dodgy cutting. Wouldnt suprise me if climbers have been using this access for a long time.
What does this mean for the climbing in the area? If the area around the access track is high in value than what of hillside and all those beautiful red roofs