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Iskra Crag update 9-Aug-2017 At 10:46:00 AM BA

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>Messers kuu, BA, M9, Lacto, kieranl, gfdonc, jrc, imaseriousyounglizar,
>and, etc, are still alive!

Still alive and enjoying life.

Hmmm, history eh? History tells all sorts of things. How climbing has changed. How climbing styles, ethics and equipment has evolved. Any attempt to rewrite history destroys the past. I thought Steve's use of Sheffield Steel (Steal?) instead of Pegasus was a great route name but he wasn't the first to climb the line was he? After talking with Steve he accepted that, although renaming routes when they were freed in the UK was acceptable, it wasn't the case in Oz. A 6m aid route doesn't have many points of aid in it, does it? Did Steve rename Ozy after he freed it?

As Lyle Closs wrote in 'Appeal for the unknown climber' (and I reprinted in the North Gramps guide 35+ years ago): "And just as the printing the names of the first to climb the route is a memorial to other mens dreams, so to climb that climb is lie in another man's grave. The grave may be the same. But it was not dug for you."

Use the original names, explain what has happened since and let the climbers of the future decide if they want to read about the the history of that particular climb.

Now it's time to toddle off towards senility ... zzz ... zzz ...