if your in hobart on a trip go the pipes dude! neika is ok but nothing special! to get there you have to join the pipeline track just above the turning circle metro buses use to turn their buses around. this is just past ferntree. 100m back from the turning circle you go up a steep track to join the pipeline track. follow this till you cross two metal bridges. just after these bridges there is an old 4wd track on the right. follow this. after a little while there is a large muddy bank on the RHS, follow the track up this bank. the first buttress where most of the routes are comes into view after about 10mins up the track. visit thesarvo.com for more info!