M9, at least ODH generally has some sort of coherent point in there somewhere, even if he doesn't like my sarcasm.
ODH, I think from Mark's description there's 'only' one retro there (Unknown doesn't count in my books if no-one even knows if it was climbed). As for whether it's a public service, I don't think it generally is, but bolting a bunch of short easy things doesn't seem the way to go for an ego boost if that's what they're after. |