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How starry do people like their guidebooks? 31-Oct-2014 At 12:17:11 PM pmonks

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On 31/10/2014 simey wrote:
>Including every obscure piece of choss frequently confuses people as they
>have to wade through pages of crap which have no relevance in helping them
>find their chosen route.

Interestingly I had exactly the opposite problem with Mikl's guide - first day out there we found plenty of routes but none of them seemed to be documented. It was the only guide (that I recall) that we returned to the store to get a refund. I'm sure I'll get vilified for this, but Bede's SRC UBM guide (which we swapped it for) was infinitely better. I've been sold on comprehensive guides ever since.

>It also encourages people to put up crap routes.

What a load of crap. People will continue to put up crap routes whether there are guidebooks or not. Just look at some of the garbage in the Grampians.

>That might be fine if you want to read the whole guidebook in detail before
>choosing a route, but is a bit of drag otherwise.

Why the fsck would you be reading the guide cover-to-cover at a crag like Pt Perp?? Pick a bowel-loosening feature that you like the look of, look it up in the guide and see if it's your cup of tea or not. No one's going to ask you to write a 5,000 word literary review on the guidebook afterwards ffs!!