On 15/02/2013 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>'From what I know of him and his routes, I strongly suspect that he would not approve of it, but I am curious to know if he has mellowed significantly about such things in latter years.'
This is the kind of point I was getting to back on page 1 - that the first ascentionist doesn't own the route and shouldn't be the person making the call regarding retroing routes. As people age they are susceptible to changing their attitudes to climbing and style.....the style that the route was put up in should remain constant (or become cleaner) and not be susceptible to being changed/corrupted just because the first ascensionists ideas and feelings change.
Claw and some of his bold ascents which are now being dumbed down are perfect examples.....