On 29/10/2012 Tastrad wrote:
As for a monopoly on Hillwood,
>this is at the request of the landowner. He has only sanctioned our guide
>and appointed us custodians of the crag under his authority. A few years
>ago before our guide came out, we had a communal interim guide under a
>rock at the cliff. Some fool decided to usurp our guide, nicked the notes
>and published a guide without the landowners permission. The landowner
>was furious, sent a solicitors letter to him and threatened closure of
>the cliff unless the piece of shit guide was taken out of publication.
>So Douggy, I don't appreciate your innuendo about having a monopoly on
>the crag. We built a relationship over 4 years with the landowner who was
>very sceptical about allowing climbng on his property. Once climbers had
>proved they were trustworthy, then he allowed a guide - but it only took
>the actions of one untrustworthy person to almost close the cliff for good.
>So thats why Hillwood will never be a free for all on the internet, and
>first time visitors still need to phone me or Bob to gain access to the
>cliff.
Nice riposte, Gerry. Of course you realize you're only kidding yourself when you talk about first time visitors having to contact you or Bob. What percentage of visitors do you think actually do that?
As for The Gorge, thesarvo's guide will easily provide enough accurate info to keep visitors happy for days.
Cheers
Doug