Just to clear a few things up i did belay mikle, on the FA of grasshopper, as he told me he hadn't climbed it before and seemed elated to arrive at the anchours in one push.He then proceeded to strip the gear and handed me the rack in order sprouting beta and talking me through it as its a very thin crack.I climbed it first go placing all the gear Yes it felt like jugs as i new what went where at managed to utilize all the stonking rests as i just observed the master of ooze.Its would be a very different proposition walking up with a rack unsure of what goes where i loath toproping.