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Syrinx - Revised Description 13-Jan-2012 At 1:57:50 PM egosan

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On 13/01/2012 kieranl wrote:
>We are talking about a route for novices here. Creativity and offsets
>aren't concepts that really apply. The penalties for getting off-route
>at the start of the pitch are severe.

You are right the penalties for getting off route are steep. To misquote Chris Kalous: "There is the body. We have a confirmed dangerous route."

Syrinx demands good route finding and the wherewithal to evaluate suss rock. This is true on either variant. We are clearly NOT talking about a route for novices. The grade does not reflect the seriousness of the climb, nor is it necessary that all low grade climbs be novice climbs.

To be clear, I don't think updating the route description as you have is a bad thing. There have no doubt been many novices on the climb. I was one. I was certainly in over my head at the time. The experience I had on Syrinx my first time taught me much about being a safer climber. The new route description might be easier to follow. Time will tell.