On 6/07/2011 Mr Poo wrote:
>Hey guys dose anyone have any info on winter climbing at Buller.
>I have seen some pics and some routes descriptions but there are NO grades.
>
>Are these climbs graded if so what grading system do they use??
>And where could I find a guide book on Ice/Winter climbing in Aus??
>cheers Poo
Does that include this information? http://www.chockstone.org/MtBulla/MtBulla.htm
It does state "There are no grades other than rare throwaway comments like ‘hard’ or ‘easy’. Bearing in mind also that how difficult some of these routes will be on a given occasion depends entirely on conditions on that day and can vary from one extreme to the other in some cases. So there are no grades "
I think this can be said for anything in Australia because everything is so variable from year to year. about the only thing i have heard which forms year-in year-out is some corner ice climb at blue lake that I once climbed years ago, but again, variable, sometimes thick and up to 20-25m of quite vertical ice to barely-climbable wafer-thin ice other years.