i guess my feeling was that at grade 15/16 the route will never follow the same sort of features as eg. Technical Ecstasy - but lets face it, I have never found the other on the wall 'sustained' either (Technical Ecstasy P1 gr 16, P2 gr 19/20, P3 gr 17) Simpleton (p1 doddle, P2 gr 18, p3 gr 17).
so if mania is relatively 'sustained' (say between gr 14 - 16) has nice moves, great gear and rock it seems reasonable that its currently under-starred - The Navigator gets *** and whilst its a really nice climb, with pitches graded between 15 and 21 its nowhere near sustained. |