Keiranís point is a good one. I am not sure what the VCC policy is on future guides but I think that there is little market for complete guides to some areas. There are scores of small cliffs and hundreds of climbs in the Mt William range alone that are of interest to local climbers, and those who spend a lot of time in the Grampians and have worked their way thruí the classics, but of little interest to the casual visitor who is likely to be using a select guide. These cliffs are probably best covered by an on line guide and the ACA site is there already to serve that function. The question is whether this can be formalised at some level with the VCC.