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Off-topic: Climbers who believe in Jesus 10-Feb-2011 At 2:16:41 PM citationx
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On 10/02/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>On 10/02/2011 Sabu wrote:
>>As above and I'll add this:
>>
>>Christianity is based on historical events, therefore it is unique in
>>that it lends itself to historical examination (unlike many other religions).
>
>Islam & Judiasm? Aren't they based on the same historical foundations
>of the Old Testament? Why are they wrong and you are right?

I guess my sole frame of incas and the dreamtime missed my point i wanted to make about these. A lot of writings and scripts are about real people that were pretty cool The point of the bible is that it adds these mythical qualities to JC, healing lepers, curing blindness, multiplying fish. The existence of JC isn't at question, the fact he is the son of "God" (who/whatever that is) and worked "miracles" (comparable to "magic") is the point of contention with the NT. As for the OT, the amount of god-wrath and miracles that occured back then that is still believed and touted by christians as proof is more off the charts (parting the red sea?), even those that can be explained now that we have a better understanding of sciences (plagues, floods, hiding of the sun, bright stars in the sky at night - to quote the oft quoted ones ;-)) Think of all those people that don't believe Darwinism but really do believe that the world was created in 7 days a few million years ago. I had once argued with a friend that if these points were incorrect (again, you may be religious enough to deny that the universe is around 13billion years old, that it was the hand of god) then why should i believe any of the remaining points brought up in the bible? If Genesis is a work of fiction (and by modern science, it is) then who is not to say a lot of the other OT things aren't either? It just lowers the level of credibility of a lot of the OT as a true historical, word for word account.

As Neil pointed out, why indeed is one right over the other. As I said, so many people reckon their god is the right one that it is impossible to not believe that "god" is just a figment of people's imagination to give them cause and right to exist.

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