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OT: Rebelious reopening of locked topic 2-Sep-2010 At 4:07:11 PM gordoste

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> christos wrote:
>I would have thought that as long as society is made up of both the religious and the secular then both camps should have input to the decision.

Yes, however the weighting of their input should be determined according to society's values, not the values of a subgroup. We don't have any official bill of rights, however I would hope that we agree that all Australian citizens should be treated equally by the law unless it has a negative effect on someone else. I fail to see how legalising gay marriage has a tangible negative effect on anybody. (Getting upset is not tangible). Therefore it should be legalised.

> dave h. wrote a lot

dave - I agree everybody should have a right to civil unions, but that is not the issue. Should everybody have a right to marriage? And if marriage is a civil institution, why should religious arguments be used to justify excluding a section of society from it?