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OT: Rebelious reopening of locked topic 25-Aug-2010 At 1:47:32 PM gordoste

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>simey wrote:
>I have never given much thought to this debate before (probably because I don't value the institution of marriage much). But seeing the issues presented so clearly here, I'm quite shocked that Australian society doesn't allow gay marriages. It seems bizarre that we allow such discrimination in this day and age.

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> Wendy wrote:
> divorce rates and rate of infidelity being as they are, marriage certainly isn't standing up to it's reputation as a way of ensuring love and committment any more so than any other.

Marriage doesn't ensure love and commitment. If that's not there when you get married then it never will be.

> Hendo wrote:
> People here with very liberal views could easily be part of the Taliban had they been born in a few different desert countries.

This is ridiculous given that the Taliban are extreme conservatives! So the anti-gay campaigners would fit right in. You are simply trying to confuse the issue by dragging totally irrelevant "bad guys" into it. Next you'll call whoever disagrees with you a Nazi.

> kieranl wrote:
>Why do otherwise smart, independent women scrap their public identities for the bloke's?

Because some of them realise it doesn't actually make any difference, and are happy to maintain the tradition. Any married man will tell you who is really the boss.

> Sabu wrote:
> according to the bible homosexuality is wrong

According to some interpretations of the Bible. If you read about the history of the Bible you'll realise most of it was written about 300 years after Jesus died by a bunch of church poobahs. I would agree that according to the Pope, homosexuality is wrong.

Regarding the "slippery slope to incestuous marriage" stuff... let me pose a question. If a sterile brother and sister wanted to have a relationship, would you let them? This question exposes the extremely strong nature of taboos. You feel it's wrong, but you cannot explain why. My question to anti-gay-marriage people is, how do you know that the same "gut instinct" isn't operating here? (BTW this question also forces pro-gay-marriage people to consider what they would allow!)