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guides new zealand 26-Jul-2010 At 10:28:57 AM skink

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On 26/07/2010 Wollemi wrote:

>Have you continued with alpinism? Do TMC’s ever get you out the door
>2 hours before first light to instill in you the need to be moving early
>on hard snow?

>What is ‘moving fast on multipitch trad’? On a thread here at Chockstone
>many weeks back, someone said an hour per pitch on rock in Oz – others
>tended to agree.

>When I see pics of the climbers gear at a bivy, the avy gear must be left
>inside the pack as well, hey?
>This is not a criticism of you, but did Mr Atkinson state just when to
>carry the extra metal? It is appreciated that avy instruction can teach
>(to an extent) when to not go out/when to retreat, and so a feeling of
>not needing to carry the shovel and probe dictates. Also; ’yeah – following
>that long ridge up from X hut and back is a long, but spectacular day –
>and you’ll be well above any potential fracture lines or debris run-outs.’
>
>I just never see pics of mountaineers with a shovel and probe each.
>
Why the bitchy post - do you have an issue with mountaineering courses run by guiding companies?

Oh, and Bill would have told JC to keep his shovel and probe inside his pack - I thought everyone knew that only skifield posers put their avy gear on the outside.