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THE AUSTRALIAN RE, RETRO-BOLTING OPEN FORUM 13-Apr-2004 At 2:01:15 AM Wonderdog

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On 9/04/2004 Damien wrote:
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>It brings into question what the motives are/were of first ascentionists,
>is it a statement of testicle size or a gift to others. Surely establishing
>a death route is exceedingly esoteric, ego inflating and selfish.
>
>By 'safening' existing routes, it is not showing disrespect to the first
>ascentionist, it is progress. People seem to assume that 'tradition' is
>better, things were better then than they are now - if we believed that
>we would be covering up our women like Muslims, not voting, racists, believing
>the world was flat etc etc like the past. Climbing is a different 'sport'
>nowadays than it was in 1981, as is shown by the number of all types of
>people, women particularly, being in the sport. I know that I would hate
>to establish a route that someone died trying to climb......

I take it from your post that other cultures values and customs are wrong? Hope you didn't take a holiday for that Easter celebration thing... son of God coming back from the dead... bit silly really. Each to their own I say, and that includes climbing. What do you care, your profile says you only climb in the gym... hell, have as many bolts as you like in there, won't worry me a bit!