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Climbing For Christ Australia 9-May-2010 At 8:12:45 PM GravityHound
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On 9/05/2010 Hendo wrote:
>
>If people are curious about science or consider that they believe in science,
>Google philosophy of science + scientific method and I’m sure you will
>find something interesting, most importantly that the ‘scientific method’,
>the demarcation between science and non science, doesn’t really exist,
>at least not in the form many people (including scientists) would naively
>expect.


care to elaborate. i googled and the first para of scientific methods in wikipedia seemed to be a pretty accurate description of what I (a perhaps naive scientist) would consider guidelines to demarcate science from non-science.

>On 9/05/2010 rodw wrote:
>>Sorry hendo intellegent design has nothing to do with science...
>
>Many scientists in the past and present, including many of the greatest
>names, (perhaps even a majority?), have been motivated by exploring and
>understanding what they believe to be a universe created by an intelligent
>being. From this perspective it is relevant. What is currently considered
>intelligent design is a permutation on this, similar approaches have their
>place in the history of science.

Sure many of the great scientists have held a belief in a higher being (Einstein was one of them). Unlike intelligent design, these scientists did not setout to prove their higher being was responsible for a particular aspect of the world, they were trying to figure out a particular aspect of their world. But, along the lines of demarcation that make sense to me, intelligent doesnt have a hypothesis or a line of enquiry so it isnt science or even remotely related to science. It is a theory or even a philisophy. Maybe it has something to do with science, but if it does I reckon it really isnt much at all.

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