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    | Cage Match Revisited - Denial and Religion | 
    13-Dec-2009 At 6:52:15 PM | 
    
      
      
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    >>I think your forgetting that Kevin Rudd is a Christian too. 
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>Yes. But only to buy votes. 
 
I would never be that judgmental, even if he is a politician. Friends of mine have known  
him for many years and believe that he is. The evidence definitely suggest that he is a  
Christian and has been a church goer for years. I suggest you do your own research  
before making a false statement, no matter how tempting. :) 
 
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>Are the waves right handers or left handers? Rideable? Are their holes 
>because they are dirty great tubes? They sound like nice waves. If I was 
>a journalist (or surfer) I would be looking for more too. 
> 
 
Oh dear resorting to condescension you must be getting desperate. :P 
I was actually quoting a channel 9 journalist, but you obviously missed the news, sorry  
forgot to add in the footnotes. 
 
>There is a whole thread devoted to this. We dont need another one. 
 
Agreed I didn't start this! ;) 
 
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>Seeing as the Montreal Protocol banned most things that cause the hole 
>there is little doubt that recovery should be starting soon, or has started 
>(?). Dont think full recovery is expected until mid-century though. Research 
>the topic. You can photograph  the ozone hole so there should be good data 
>on what it is doing. 
> 
 
I think citationx answered this well enough, he's done the research. Thanks! :) 
 
>Not Sen. Steve Fielding. Thats my tip of the day. 
 
Don't really know him and have never supported him. 
 
>Not necessarily the U.S. but predominantly the U.S. There is a petition 
>of 'scientists' who dont believe in AGW. Track that down and look at the 
>proprtion of them that are yanks. 
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What is the % of U.S. scientists who do believe in AGW? If you can provide this and  
compare maybe then I could understand your argument. But a blanket generalized  
statement does not make a case. What % of Scientists in the world does the U.S. have  
compared to the rest of the world? If you can answer these questions I'd agree with you  
no problem.  
 
Actually this may shock you if you'd researched it. 
The following link states that in a poll taken in 1991 95% of U.S. scientists believe in  
evolution not creationism. Does this mean they've all changed dramatically within 18  
years to become Christians? 
 
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA111.html 
 
Alot of the objections that I've been hearing and reading have come from the U.K and  
Europe. 
 
I tend to think that it this has much more to do with Money than religion. | 
     
     
            
  
        
	     
        
      
      
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