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Cage Match Revisited - Denial and Religion 13-Dec-2009 At 7:45:03 AM GravityHound

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On 12/12/2009 Brazened wrote:
>I think your forgetting that Kevin Rudd is a Christian too.

Yes. But only to buy votes.
>
>There have been some murmurings in the media recently that all is not
>what it seems
>especially after the government sent 114 delegates to Copenhagen and lied
>saying there
>was only around 40 being sent. This has caused waves and journalists are
>now looking
>for other holes too.

Are the waves right handers or left handers? Rideable? Are their holes because they are dirty great tubes? They sound like nice waves. If I was a journalist (or surfer) I would be looking for more too.

>From what I've read there are plenty of Scientists who believe that the
>earth's climate is
>changing but not because of what we are doing, they think it is changing
>naturally. For
>instance this is the opposite to entering an ice age.

There is a whole thread devoted to this. We dont need another one.

> Some scientists
>also believe that
>the hole in the ozone layer is now getting smaller, not larger.

Seeing as the Montreal Protocol banned most things that cause the hole there is little doubt that recovery should be starting soon, or has started (?). Dont think full recovery is expected until mid-century though. Research the topic. You can photograph the ozone hole so there should be good data on what it is doing.

>So who to believe?

Not Sen. Steve Fielding. Thats my tip of the day.

>I honestly have no idea, I don't claim to be an exert
>and am not about
>to go a do a degree and paper on climate change. But there are definitely
>differing
>opinions within the scientific community as a whole and it's not necessarily
>just in the
>U.S.

Not necessarily the U.S. but predominantly the U.S. There is a petition of 'scientists' who dont believe in AGW. Track that down and look at the proprtion of them that are yanks.