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Sydney - North Head / The Gap POM review 10-Dec-2009 At 2:15:29 PM Capt_mulch

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On 10/12/2009 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>Perhaps ask NPWS for their documentation on
>>'climbing has never been allowed'
>... and then reply to that in the submission with a list of documented
>climbs prior to (1998?) might suffice?
>~> ie why not use their own ammunition against them, rather than do all
>the legwork yourself?
>
Yep, that's what I'm working on - it seems that climbing was allowed before 1998 (probably implicitly rather than explicitly), it's just that they say that it wasn't.

>In any event I would not take an adversarial role against them in this,
>even though collectively we disagree with their policy; as I have found
>working with such authorities to be a more productive exercise.
Nothing adversarial. I am using the argument that rock climbing actually is very compatible with their stated historical, cultural and recreation objectives for the park. Note that my submission is under the auspices of the CCA, so I gotta be nice. (Not to mention there's a very UK-style sea cliff traverse I want to put up at Dobroyd Head, so I need to suck up hard :-)

>
>Another thought. Are you jumping the gun on this? I too will be putting
>in a submission when they seek comment on the next draft plan of management,
>... after it is formulated and put out for public comment! Weight of numbers
>and all that...

Not sure if I'm jumping the gun. I'm just responding to a request by Zac Zaharias for someone to work on a submission for the CCA. I'm working it out as I go along. If people want to get together for a more co-ordinated or combined approach, I'm more than happy. I've put this to Kevin Westren (Sydney Rockies), but no reply yet.