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Tiger Wall - Dribble Bolting? 13-Aug-2009 At 5:23:12 PM Dave J

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On 13/08/2009 simey wrote:
>And Dave... for you to talk about aspiring to create climbs without fixed
>gear and then retro-bolt a naturally protected two-star route (Strolling
>RHV) so you could establish Ergonomics, well I would call that hypocritical.

No...Strolling RHV was a climb done with fixed gear placed on abseil thats differnet in my mind to a
route that goes entirely on natural gear...Anyway Ergonomics is the obvious (bolted) finish to Chris
Shephards (bolted) line to the right of strollings start I extended a line with 2 bolts and a piton adding 2
more bolts. Im sure if Mark had had the vision to finish up the middle of the wall when he did strolling
RHV he would have put bolts in it (and maybe even chipped a few holds) and you would be singing his
praises. I hadnt been going to mention the Ergonomics episode as being a good example of how
sometimes your personal agendas get in the way of your ability to reason....but since you brought it
up.

I certainly dont have a problem with bolts, most of my favourite climbs have some bolts in them. But I
still think that if a line will go on natural gear then it should (unless its at nowra or somewhere like
that). There are a few routes around with just one bolt that probably needent have been there (Grand
Oral Disseminator and Malice spring to mind but Im sure there are others) and likewise a few sport
routes that are entriely bolted but for one fiddly natural placement and that seems bit weird too.

Anyway I thought this was a dscussion about retrobolting natural, multi-pitch adventure routes at the
mount not extending an exsisting clip up.