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Ben Nevis - Shame on you. What a waste of a crag. 9-Aug-2009 At 10:54:21 PM southcol

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A nice heated debate brewing here.

I have never climbed at Ben Nevis, (only in Scotland!) but been on many granite slabs...why are slabs historically synonymous with runouts ? I hate falling or tumbling for ever on sharp granite.

One common concept most climbers tend to agree on is staying alive. I think with any type of climb 'a run out' regardless of length, difficulty, bolts or natural, becomes unacceptable to all but a few when the fall results in serious injuries or lights out.

The level of risk taken is an indivudual choice this is sometimes difficult to assess at the bottom of a climb, if its bolted one tends to assume its safe. Not that Im a huge fan of it, but the British grading system lends itself well to assessing the subjective risk.

JBM, out of interest, are the bolted routes at Ben Nevis dangerously run out ?