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OLD ROCK STAR WILL GIVE YOU $8000 3-May-2009 At 11:17:50 AM Tim Kelly

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>"Demand from their power supplier, the Government, or both? ... ~> how to work in numbers instead of as individuals and know we are having an effect?"

Starting some four and a half years ago when GreenPower had no basis of the claims of reduced emissions even before the NGER Act, my approach has been to demand the this from the ACCC (to clean up the whole renewables indstry), of the Department of Climate Change, from previous and current ministers, from my supplier, from GreenPower, from the State and Federal offices of the Ombudsman, from media to cover the issues.

Other GreenPower customers could start where they feel most comfortable.

There are relatively simple ways to fix the situation at least for GreenPower customers by netting out the dilution effect of voluntary renewables and RECs sold interstate from the state grid calculations.

To fix the problem so that we can have a truly low carbon economy framework then both renewables and other lower emission energy sold seperately to the standard grid electricity need to be netted out. This would take some additional effort but is neccessary so that we can have a beneficial response to avoiding carbon costs from electricity that represents around half of australia's emissions and is the major part of the greenhouse footprint of many households and businesses.

We need to be moving towards ensuring that when a customer pays for renewables, that they are not paying this on top of CPRS Carbon costs in standard electricity.

Furthermore, when a customer buys 100% renewables we need some transparent rules around what makes up 100%. If there is already a mandatory percentage in standard electricity (lets say 10%), should that 100% GreenPower customer pay for 110% and foot the bill for other big indusry users that have various exemptions and are paying nothing towards renewables in the grid or otherwise?

So long as these calcs are done in an open and transparent way, I am confident that reforms could lead to a much better system that customers could have confidence in.