Phil---I respect your 'drift' ,dude. This is a TOTALLY OPEN forum. It's about IDEAS and if the 200+ 'lurkers' and 'others' wanna have a 'I don't want to be taken toooooooooooo seriously' say, on issues that may or may not be degrading their climbing experience
and even access to their climbing experience then etc,etc,etc
Luv HEX
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