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Compare gyms in Melbourne to Europe 1-Feb-2008 At 9:49:37 PM dreamingof8a

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On 1/02/2008 Cliffhanger wrote:
>not quite!
>
>a 20 mt wall takes considerably longer to strip.

Hmm, I'm happy to try and prove you wrong :-)
do you guys use an electric drill? We always used a normal key to loosen the screws and then finished them off with the electric drill. A bucket on your harness to collect the holds and screws, that's it.

>industrial dishwashers do not clean the holds sufficiently - we had one
>and have gone back to hand washing.

All of the gyms that I know in Germany/France/Switzerland use such dishwashers and it works fine there. Maybe it's a different washing liquid?

>Your definition of "safe enough" may not keep the gyms PLI insurance and
>workcover underwriters happy - You may also need to consider the wall,
>it's overhand, fall zones etc. Actually roping off an area to comply with
>the forthcoming Australian Standard for Climbing Walls and WorkSafe Victoria
>is a little more than the two rows of adjacent quickdraws next to it! In
>Victoria you also have to provide Orange Barricading, Danger keep Out and
>Workers Overheard signage... etc.

Which fall zones when only top-roping?

Okay, I don't know about the regulations here in Australia and actually in Germany neither. What I called "safe enough" is rather my experience of many route setting sessions. But the owner of the gym at home is in the committee where insurance issues and norms are decided - so I guess he should now that it is okay.