>Hey DK, sorry about the delay in getting back to you but shit happens.
no worries, i wasnt freting too much.
I agree with your comment on the attitudes and agree, after all elthic are entwined with attitudes.
Again the concept pf mandating a "set" lenght of time to complete any FA of a route is just too hard to deal with, its the concept of "i bolt therefor its mine, until i do it or hand it over". Our discussions wont change anything, but it is proving to be an interesting discussion. I do see (beleive it or not) the view from the other side. I have spoken to a few guys who are active bolters on the topic with mixed reactions. When an incident happened like the one a few years ago (cant remember the route) where the bolter got so upset that the choose to deface the rock as someone "stole" thier route, well i guess it does all come down to attitude like you said.
As i said before i dont go out and climb routes that are "projects", i tend to stick to the guide book as most others do, there are far too many classics to climb.
Hope theweather fines up for the w/e for you, let us know how yougo.
Cheers
dk |