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Removing bolts to create trad paradise 5-May-2007 At 12:12:25 PM tmarsh

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Trad climbing is traditional climbing right? So what's the Victorian tradition?

What I find slightly odd about this debate is that we seem to have adopted some other country's version of what 'trad' means. Victoria has, for a very long time, had a unique climbing ethic, being the use of non-fixed gear wherever possible, with the placement of the odd carrot where protection is otherwise inadequate. That ethic *is* our tradition. There is nothing incongruous about Rosea having the odd bolt or two. There is everything incongruous about it having lines of glue-in rings to lower-offs.

No bolts does not equate to trad climbing in this state at least.

Surely there are bigger and better debates to be had about the future of climbing than flogging this old nag again and again and again.