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star vs no star 23-Mar-2007 At 2:38:55 PM oweng

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On 23/03/2007 kp wrote:

>Zero. I couldn't even get up it!!
>Alrob the face guru did it. Wish i'd saved the great name for a route
>at VD Land though.

I assumed there would be a media firestorm when that dragon got slain. Australian Story interviews, Newsweek front covers ;-).

>Anyhow back to the subject...
>Why are photogenic 'gully routes' given stars ?

To try to encourage people to make the effort to tramp up the gully and repeat the routes I guess.

Hows this for a friday afternoon acedemic question:

Should the access to a climb be a consideration in grading it. For example Pole Dancer on Tasman Peninsula is a ***22 sport route (apparently, I havent done it yet). It would take 20 minutes to climb, but requires a long day of hiking, abseiling and scrambling to get to that 20 minutes. Are routes still great routes if the access is so bad that the overall exeriance is diluted?

(Yes I know, the walk out to Cape Rauol is stunning, and the scrambling / rapping will be memerable, so maybe this isnt the best example, but I think people understand my point.)