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Open Projects ?? 30-Sep-2003 At 12:00:51 AM Donut King

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bloody good topic chris!

I disagree with the majority of thought so far in this thread.
A piece of rock, bolts or no bolts, cant be reserved like a library book.
Sure it takes time to equip routes but there has to be a reasonable timeframe for working a new route. Cant just put a bit of tat and say "route reserved", so piss-off its mine.

if you want to be sure that know one does "your route" then put padlacks on the first few bolts, make sure they fit the plate completely, that way you can lock out all the unworthy scum until you're good enough to do it!

Or perhaps we can see a repeat of the dummy spit (not the first mind you!) some time ago with the smashed holds and suncream...get over it...

from the talk hear, i could go out bolt a route and maintain a monolpoly over IT until such time that *I* see fit to *give* it to others...you really have to be joking.

equipping a route gives *no-right* to its first ascent, or attempts until *I* see fit.

Sure, we love all you super energetic people that have the time/resources/inclination to bolt routes, but how long does every one else have to wait...who is going to provide the definition of "reasonable time"?

I would say that I have *never knowingly* climbed someone elses project, but when routes go sitting "vacent" for extended periods i have little sympathy for those who have overestimated their ability, or do not have the reasoning to give up what is inherently not theirs to begin with.

Great pride is placed in finding/developing new routes (for whatever reason) and people are very finiky about who climbed what route first, so why not have a "project register or database" to keep track of all this sort of whoo-ha, with a 4 month maximum? Bring on the Project Administrators!!!

peace out