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Gris Gris banned at Sydney Indoor 29-Jun-2006 At 6:06:46 PM shmalec

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On 29/06/2006 garbie wrote:
>It would!! Unfortunately, gyms aren't keen on volunteering their data
>on accidents for fear that the insurance companies will put up premiums
>or not insure them & govt bodies like Workcover would make it difficult
>for everybody.

Surely you have to declare these events to workcover and insurers anyway. Not doing the research because you might find out something that you dont want to know is a very poor approach. Its bad for us climbers and its bad for gyms.

You won't find a single climber out there that isn't interested in the cause of accidents. Gyms should be just as interested rather than burying their head in the sand. You may find that you are paying high premiums because of the poor practices of other gyms who don't take the same measures that you do. You all get tarred with the same brush as long as you hide your accident information.

Anyway, who says you would be under an obligation to share industry wide research with anyone other than the contributers.

> Remember
>that the two accidents here (& many in the past) involved experienced climbers
>- what hope do inexperienced or new users have to operate them correctly
>100% of the time?

Are a high proportion of your visits from experienced climbers? When I climb indoors the majority of other customers appear to be regulars. If 9 out of 10 visits are from regulars you would expect many of the accidents to be "experienced" climbers.

The auto lock on the gri-gri may be stopping the bumbly first timers from dropping their partners when they are taking photos with both hands on their camera (seen this a few times).

The more informed you are about the measures you put in place the safer your gym will be.