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Araps Rebolting 20-Dec-2005 At 6:00:35 PM shaggy

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Simey, Whilst I agree with you on a couple of your points, especially the stupid bolting which favors redpointing, but......
We have the technology to make artificial gear unobtrusive and it is not so difficult, but the replacment of dodgy carrots with carrots (well, glued in stainless hangerless bolts, to be more correct), to me seems quite silly.

Carrot bolts were never a good idea, and the placement of such carrots by certain members of the climbing community was even a worse idea. Does the fumbling around with redundant hangers really make a climb what it is?? Come on! If a climb is so pox that it requires the placement of hangers, why would you be on it? As for the classics, like all the ones mentioned, fine, leave a couple in, as history reminders of how archeic our climbing technologies were!

But that is the past, the climbing scene has changed, unfortunately we have to also deal with the lowest common demominator of todays climbers, and at the end of the day, there are lots of idiot out there, who dont understand their own capabilities.

Anyway, this topic has been absolutely flogged, but, can you imagine how a carrot bolt would look with all those hundreds of people who want to wing off 'Have a good flight" these days?