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Climbing with partner has +ly affected my climbing

28%

" " -ly affected my climbing

'' '' -ly affected my climbing but it's worth it

My partner and I chose to climb apart

" " have a balance of climbing together and apart

13%

My partner doesn't climb

19%

No body loves me, everybody hates me, think I'll..

24%

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Sexually transmitted climbing performance


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
10:05:01 AM

It seem many of us prefer partners who also climb (who wouldn't climbers are hot!) but this raises the problem "to climb or not to climb (together) that is the question" (sorry for lame arse attempt at a Shakespeare reference). In recent history I spent a lot of my climbing time bumbling up 10s with a partner who was learning to lead, at a stage when I really should have been pushing my grades. At the time I justified it with things like "it's a good way to spend quality time together", "all time spent on the rock is a positive learning experience" etc, it was also very convenient. Now spat out the other end having lost all the stuff you usually at the end of a relationship (but having gained a friend :)) I found I'm also regretting the lost climbing potential! What experiences have others had climbing with partners? Have you willingly or unwillingly sacrificed climbing ability to climb with your partner? Was it worth it? Does the old ethos "just because we sleep together doesn't mean we climb together" still stand?


IdratherbeclimbingM9

26-Sep-2005
10:42:58 AM

>Have you willingly or unwillingly sacrificed climbing ability to climb with your partner?
Yes.
>Was it worth it?
Yes.

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Post edit 1 (for clarification).
My partner doesn't climb.

Post edit 2.
>Yeah but we know you're the man that has it all!!! Lucky bugger :)
?
... all except lots of climbing time and high climbing grades perhaps, but don't get me wrong as I am very happy with my lot.


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
10:55:14 AM

On 26/09/2005 M8iswhereitsat wrote:
>>Have you willingly or unwillingly sacrificed climbing ability to climb
>with your partner?
>Yes.
>>Was it worth it?
>Yes.

Yeah but we know you're the man that has it all!!! Lucky bugger :)


Eduardo Slabofvic

26-Sep-2005
11:13:15 AM

There's nothing better to bring a couple closer together than screaming "Give me some f*cking rope now", or other pillow talk of that nature.


brat

26-Sep-2005
11:20:57 AM

On 26/09/2005 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>There's nothing better to bring a couple closer together than screaming
>"Give me some f*cking rope now", or other pillow talk of that nature.

Yep, terms of endearment! :o)

When I'm on lead is the only time she pays full attention to what I'm saying, gotta love 'em! :o)


Super Saiyan

26-Sep-2005
12:33:48 PM

On 26/09/2005 brat wrote:
>Yep, terms of endearment! :o)
>
>When I'm on lead is the only time she pays full attention to what I'm
>saying, gotta love 'em! :o)

True that! lol climbing with kerryn has definately improved my performance, we both bring different things to our relationship/climbing partnership... She's Little Miss Technique and has been climbing a year longer and spent more time on rock and in different locations. her foot technique kills mine (i think thats the female vs male thing lol) and she has a "grab a hold and pull on it" which keeps her moving upwards, where as my "feel all the holds til you find a good one" usually leaves me pumping out!

on the flip side, im always super motivated, and would climb 7 days a week if i had the time... this motivation rubs off on her and gets her on routes she wouldnt normally consider.. if she gets spat off, then 'my act like an idiot to get her laughing again' comes into play!

we both have different spans and dimensions, strengths and weaknesses so between us we usually find a way... if we cant, we just agree its a crap climb! hehhe

and also doing dips and situps and push ups together... oh so hot! :) lol


matt

26-Sep-2005
1:09:03 PM

On 26/09/2005 obsessedclimber wrote:
>and also doing dips and situps and push ups together... oh so hot! :)
>lol

push ups... for climbing training right? =]


Super Saiyan

26-Sep-2005
1:10:38 PM

haha yes, for CLIMBING training... gotta get some meat on my little girlie body! lol


kerroxapithecus

26-Sep-2005
2:00:44 PM

I guess if your whole world revolves around climbing and you want to have a love interest they will probably need to climb with you whether or not they and/or you like it. Otherwise how would you conduct any kind of relationship? On the other hand if you value a more balanced life you may ask how is the climbing affecting our relationship? rather than the other way around. Climbing is very intense and those climbing together spend lots of time thinking about it, talking about it, travelling to it, training for it and doing it. I think I'd find it a bit too stifling to be honest. What about a partnership consisting of 2 individuals?

But then if 2 people meet who happen to have a passion for one particular thing it is probably a great thing. However too many times one follows the other and does something they're not really into and I don't think that kind of thing could last and you may find bitterness at the end where someone actually gave up something of themselves to do something that was really someone else's dream and the other person holding themselves back from doing something bigger and better or in a different way (the lost climbing potential) to what is possible within the limitations of the combined love/climbing partnership....especially if it's a lengthy relationship. Imagine feeling that you've lost 10 years of your life. It happens!

I say climb with your partner if you are both really genuinely into it but don't make it your entire life together unless you are both on the exact same path with the climbing thing. I suppose some relationships will last and the partners will need to work out ways that the climbing fits in with some of the other enriching life experiences that pop out later. If the whole thing was about climbing then what happens when there's not much time for it later as the two get older? (and yes, it does happen!) Where's the basis for the partnership then?

I know some of you are a bit young for that kind of thinking at the moment but just some thoughts from an old lady....


Bourge

26-Sep-2005
2:23:50 PM

I volunteer my body for the research study. I might be an old boy but I'm still quite frisky after a couple of G&T's after bingo on Saturday night

Bourge


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
3:17:09 PM

On 26/09/2005 kerroxapithecus wrote:
>I guess if your whole world revolves around climbing and you want to have
>a love interest they will probably need to climb with you whether or not
>they and/or you like it.

Or climb apart but at the same crag and then look forward to sharing tales of the fantastic days you've both had back at camp :)

>However too many times one follows
>the other and does something they're not really into and I don't think
>that kind of thing could last and you may find bitterness at the end where
>someone actually gave up something of themselves to do something that was
>really someone else's dream and the other person holding themselves back
>from doing something bigger and better

It seems us chicks are a little quicker to fall into this trap-hopeless romantics :(

>Imagine feeling that you've lost 10 years of your life. It happens!

They're adding up :)


IdratherbeclimbingM9

26-Sep-2005
3:28:45 PM

>Sexually transmitted climbing performance
= (insert favourite hard climbers name) offspring ?


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
4:33:42 PM

On 26/09/2005 M8iswhereitsat wrote:
>>Sexually transmitted climbing performance
>= (insert favourite hard climbers name) offspring ?

Imagine if you could combine favourite climbing attributes of multiple "hard climbers" = super climbing baby!!! (not to mention a great shag!)


Super Saiyan

26-Sep-2005
4:36:17 PM

On 26/09/2005 Paradise wrote:
>
>
>Imagine if you could combine favourite climbing attributes of multiple
>"hard climbers" = super climbing baby!!! (not to mention a great shag!)

id like to volunteer my body for this experiment. I'm sure kerryn will understand! :P hehe

26-Sep-2005
4:38:19 PM

On 26/09/2005 Paradise wrote:
>Now spat out the other end having lost all the stuff you usually at the end of a relationship (but having gained a friend :))

somehow, i find this hard to believe !

I don't know anyone who has ever come out of a relationship with a 'friend'. Maybe Jerry Seinfeld and Elaine Bennis, but thats about it..


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
4:39:52 PM

On 26/09/2005 obsessedclimber wrote:

>id like to volunteer my body for this experiment. I'm sure kerryn will
>understand! :P hehe

What attribute would you like to offer?


nmonteith

26-Sep-2005
4:39:57 PM

hmmmmmm


Super Saiyan

26-Sep-2005
4:42:39 PM

hmmm persistance... lol

as long as it dont involve men! hahhaa


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
4:43:34 PM

On 26/09/2005 KP wrote:
>On 26/09/2005 Paradise wrote:
>>Now spat out the other end having lost all the stuff you usually at the
>end of a relationship (but having gained a friend :))
>
>somehow, i find this hard to believe !
>
>I don't know anyone who has ever come out of a relationship with a 'friend'.
> Maybe Jerry Seinfeld and Elaine Bennis, but thats about it..

We're working on it but he hasn't read this thread yet :)


Paradise

26-Sep-2005
5:08:21 PM

This is starting to look a little like those other internet forums :)

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