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I require a belay to leave flat ground

Dont solo 'routes' but do unroped access scrambles

42%

I solo established routes graded 5 or less

I solo established routes graded 10 or less

I solo to within 10 grades of my roped limit

15%

I solo to within 7 grades of my roped limit

19%

I solo to within 4 grades of my roped limit

I solo at or near my roped limit

Topic Date User

Soloing 29-Aug-2005 At 4:10:40 PM Take!

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"The community benefits derived by climbing would I suspect outweigh the costs significantly".

I don't know, I hope you are right. I remember winging about how the pubs were changing and didn't welcome 'climbers' who came in after a day cragging. Then we compared our beer and shared bowl of wedges to the yuppy family's 3 course meals and wine etc. I can't blame the pubs for re-marketing their venues really. We do make important inputs in certain small areas but overall I don't think we appear on the economic radar. I don't like saying that, I'd love to be proved wrong, but ignoring the fact that we are an easy group to marginalise is a quick way to find ourselves regulated or banned.
I'm not saying the reaction from the controlling class would be valid or based on anything other than the need to find another minority to demonise, when they want to divert attention from real issues.

Yes Neil well picked, I had responded to the post about the number of rescues in an area of UK, then spoke only about soloing. Really any climber who intentionally "pushes the boat out" should consider how the consequence could effect the regulation of the 'sport'. Sorry about that, didn't mean to raise hackles and single out soloing.

Sorry to highjack the thread too.