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Poll: To smoke or not to smoke... 2-May-2005 At 2:28:02 PM ShinToe Warrior

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On 2/05/2005 rocket wrote:
>Hmmm, slightly exagerated response, but I'll bight. Truth be told, I've
>never come across someone not kind enough to stop smoking when asked.
>But it would take more than a fight to get us banned.

It wasn't a troll or anything like that, just highlighting the need to keep things a bit civil at the crag and
point out the absurdity of using extreme measures to deal with things that might shit you or other people.

exaggerated? perhaps, but no more than the idea of you strangling someone with your rope because they
told you to f$$k off when asked to butt out their cigarette. I can see the emoticon and know its basically
venting and in jest, but there are plenty of people out in the community who have had a triple bypass of
humour, sarcasm and irony, and take things like that rather literally. Words have a way of being twisted
and made to serve other people's agendas.

I've seen people spraying poo on several forums about punching people's lights out, shooting them,
slashing their tyres, cutting ropes, etc for both actual and imagined infractions or just being tools, and
really - it is of zero help to anyone to publicly detail such plans on a forum for all to see - whether the
person intends following through or not, and it may create a deeply negative impression of climbers in
people prone to stereotyping others - the Media would be a prime example.....

As you say, you have never had a problem persuading people to stop smoking around you at the crag, so
there's really no problem at all.

Maybe it would take more than a fight/strangulation/slashing of tyres etc etc to get climbing banned at a
crag, - do you really want to test that theory?

Just be mindful :)

STW