General Climbing Discussion

Topic	Date	User
More grading debate - oz Ice/Mixed	30-Mar-2005 At 3:30:40 PM	ant
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> i'm also sure the alpinists are making up >new acronyms for each route 'cause i've never heard of half of them before...take >anthony's route on lagun parron for instance TD+, W3, V+, A2 definitely >sounds cool though Complicated really. It took longer to work out the locally used grading system than it did to climb the route. The conversion is: TD+: overall route grade, although we got called sandbaggers, and upped it to ED1 W3: the waterfall ice component (40 metres of 75 to 80 degree ice. Mmmm) V+: the hardest rock moves (about 15-16 Ewbank) A2: the aid component

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