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What is Sport and Trad? 17-Feb-2005 At 10:46:36 AM hangdoggy

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On 17/02/2005 rodw wrote:
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>How many hard trad routes have had ground up onsight FA's? Very few I
>suspect. Once you get on a route, have a go and fail, even if get off pull
>all the gear and try again....you have effectively pre inspected the route
>(ie end result much the same as rap inspection) IMHO.

have to agree with simey here...there is a whole world of difference between falling on a route on an attempt and rap inspecting. no one said you have to onsight a climb...think of what the sport of climbing would be like if we onsighted every climb we attempted...
it would soon get pretty boring

but falling on an attempt and whether you lower or dog the move as simey states you dont know what is above you...and ethically it is a lot more stylish then to rap the route inspecting every move and nuance of the climb.