>It doesn't have the pin anymore - this is what I have a problem with.
so you would be happy if the piton was bashed back in, and the ringbolt was removed??
a guy decked off it, popped the piton and levered a flake off with all the other manky gear in the process. Pitons are not a long term solution. Red rain wall is a sad example of pitons ruining a brilliant wall.
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