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Grading Systems 14-Jun-2003 At 9:53:08 PM BenHev

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This is what Rupert was trying to get me going about (see the first post).

Kieran, for a straightforward climb, I think of HVS going with 5a, and E1 with 5b. So for the objective grade 5b, you're saying Brolga is a bit of a soft touch. Is this what you intended?
Having just done it last weekend, and getting a 'little worried' on the 2nd pitch (bit runout for me) I'd say more like E1 5a (more serious for the move).
The route might be E1 5a, 5a, 4a.

Qua Vadis, haven't done it, but the same comment applies, straightforward route would be E2 5c, since you're saying its serious, then maybe E3 5c.

I haven't really come across the USA system of R and X, but the principle seems similar, its just that with the British system, you have to know what 'normal' is! (The Brit system can also indicate a climb that's a soft touch).

Cheers
Ben