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22-Oct-2004 12:23:20 AM
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What a shocker! Is it just me or has it GONE! The opening stuff of some strong guy crank'n out something, I can only guess it is in Europe, is great, but then it really disappoints. Too much sky and wide angle gear. What happen to the grainy close up? And that Thailand shot, please...... Guess I'll be getting another one for christmas as it the only one around and the rels always get me one.....
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22-Oct-2004 12:42:49 AM
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you can send it my way if you're not happy with it...
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22-Oct-2004 8:33:38 AM
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i agree the shots have been completly boring this time around,even the last couple of years it
hasnt been great.there was one good photo once of some icical and an ice climber but other then
that i think i'd prefer to look at my native animals calander.
thereis some better ones about the place though i think.
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22-Oct-2004 8:39:53 AM
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I think the calender is ok, there have been better i agree but this one is cool. i espicially like the photo of sharma, not so much the actual photo just the fact that he is on a 70m, 34 , i suspect that would be a bit pumpy :P
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22-Oct-2004 10:41:32 AM
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hmm calendar boring, definately not as good as last year.
Kurt and Mighty mouse, do you not sleep?? 12.30 AM!!
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22-Oct-2004 11:32:12 AM
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i'd be careful on expressing you opinons how you are guys, as simon carter is a prominant member of this forum. im sure he is open to constructive critism, but some of the comments about it being "a shocker" and "boring" are probably not needed. he spends a lot of time and money to produce these calenders, so just go easy on him, and try to remember that he has to appeal to all different types of climbers around the world, not just here in oz.
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22-Oct-2004 11:57:54 AM
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On 22/10/2004 alrob wrote:
>he spends a lot of time and money to produce these
>calenders, so just go easy on him, and try to remember that he has to appeal
>to all different types of climbers around the world, not just here in oz.
totally agree
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22-Oct-2004 12:20:39 PM
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I thought it was great. Im planing to buy two copies one for the office and one for home :). Once again ozzy tall poppy knocker syndrome raises its ugly back-clipped head (see also the thread titled '34').
Josh.
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22-Oct-2004 12:35:59 PM
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photos are like routes really - some people like a particular shot - some people dont. i think the diversity and quality in simon's work is awesome. Some shots really appeal - some dont. some people who just pick up mags (or calendars) have no appreciation of how much work goes into getting good shots. Big walls, ice routes, not what you'd call easy environments to take photos in. have a look at the other climbing calendars out there (if you can find them) and compare. i think you'll find that simons' work is world class.
If you dont like it, then go and buy one of of those Cute Cuddly Kitten calendars or even better, Bulging Beauties.
cheers
Rob
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22-Oct-2004 12:38:51 PM
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I actual like this 1 more than the others because it concentrates more on the climb than the climber.
For me a good climbing photo gives some idea of the moves that have been done or are in the process of being done, instead of how the light catches someone's bicep.
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22-Oct-2004 1:31:20 PM
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I agree that some of the international photos are not up to Simon’s usual high standard but the Aussie ones are great (perhaps some of us are a bit bias). If you look at the smaller photo below the main pic of the one that was used on the front cover... make sence much..... I think some might agree that it was a better shot. Only problem being that the format doesn't lend itself to the layout Simon has used for the Calender thus far. So I think to some extent hes been limited but this.
I vote bigger Calenders from Simon in the future... An A3 size for the Photo then same again for the dates. That way no good photos are relegated to the bottom page just because of the angle/format they where shot in.
And where are those long awaited desk-top planners Simon
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22-Oct-2004 5:45:37 PM
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>And where are those long awaited desk-top planners Simon
Not to mention the desktop wallpaper! A few years back you used to have some great hi-res images for download, but alas, no longer. Good thing I can do my own by scanning the coffee-table book! ;-)
The calendar should appeal to those who like sharp, saturated, graphical compositions. That isn't everybody though. Those who want to see colour gels, macros, b+w, high grain bumshots have to go elsewhere.
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22-Oct-2004 5:53:05 PM
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On 22/10/2004 adski wrote:
>Those who want to see (snip) high grain bumshots have to go elsewhere.
Sounds like joe-averages typical climbing album / shots!
~ Wish I had a new roll of film for every one I've taken!!
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22-Oct-2004 5:57:00 PM
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I love Onsight photography and I am so so soooooo dissapointed that Simon's photography book 'Rock Climbing in Australia' has sold out and it doesn't look like there is going to be a reprint in the near future. I would love to get a hold of a second-hand one (though brand new would be much better as partial profits actually go to the guy that spent so much time on it ie. Simon). But if there is anyone out there bitching about his work and would like to donate a copy to a fan....
I agree with alrob/breezy...
so much time (money, resources, sweat, tears, reshoots etc etc etc) go into photographing climbers/rock so if the international photos are 'not up to the usual standard', I am sure the time and resources factor was considerably more limited than with the Aussie photos.
But that's just my 2 cents.
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PS. I am starting a vote for all those that want Simon's book reprinted. All those in favour say 'AYE'!
lots 'o' love always... 'lil wombat aka Nina-Jay
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26-Oct-2004 1:21:36 PM
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Here's a challenge to all the critics:
You get out there and produce 12 technically, aesthetically and eye catching images and try and produce a calender..... or a book. Not as easy as one may think.
There's more to a photo than most may realise, it's not luck my friends, it's knowing how to get the best shot, in the best light at the best time, and get all the technical camera workings/whether to use flash etc... all coming together for a great shot. And sometimes the subject you are photographing isn't always the easiest either.. as a photographer, there are many challenges and problems to overcome.
You may have one day to get the photograph of a certain person on a certain climb and on that day the weather doesn't turn on the sunshine.... You need the shot... It's gotta be a winner, a warm shot, something that captures the colour of the rock as though the sun were on it. What do you do? You've got to work with your subject and equipment to get the very best out of the situation and come out with the crisp shot.
Not as easy as turning up to the crag and getting some fluke shot. To do it as a job you have to know how to work in any situaton and still get your shot, in any circumstance.
Enjoy the calender folks.... soon there might be more than one on the market!
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26-Oct-2004 1:53:09 PM
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absof---enlutely- while there were on 'experimentals' this year (as in 2005), all the shots are TOP quality
(Em there's room for more than one on my wall, put me down for a copy if it goes through)
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27-Oct-2004 2:17:40 PM
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I thought Simon's calendar was excellent as usual.
Here is another superb site for climbing/mountain photos:
http://www.gdargaud.net/Photo/Wallpaper.html
I've had most of these snaps as desktop wallpaper at some time, it's great.
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7-Jun-2005 10:56:33 PM
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BUMP!!!
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7-Jun-2005 10:57:20 PM
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On 22/10/2004 Kurt wrote:
>What a shocker! Is it just me or has it GONE! The opening stuff of some
>strong guy crank'n out something, I can only guess it is in Europe, is
>great, but then it really disappoints. …
blah, blah…
On 22/10/2004 Syd Huxley wrote:
>i agree the shots have been completly boring this time around,even the
>last couple of years it
blah, blah….
Yes, I did see this thread but was OS at the time and couldn’t be bothered responding later. I’ve already explained on anther thread where this dribble came from. Do me a favour guys and at least next time put your real names to your rubbish. I don’t need to read this crap. And I sure as hell don’t need to defend my work.
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Anyway, many thanks to everyone else who turned this thread into something reasonably positive in the end. Photography is highly subjective and I’m sure some people could miss what I’m trying to achieve at times, but that’s OK. (You’ll see). As Alrob suggested, I’m certainly open to constructive criticism of my work. So thanks to those who made constructive comments.
Some good news coming soon…………………
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8-Jun-2005 6:23:26 AM
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I think your calenders are tops
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