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New Grampians bans announced: Taipan, Bundaleer 17-Aug-2020 At 9:01:36 AM dan_b
On 16-Aug-2020 Martym wrote:
>On 14-Aug-2020 dan_b wrote:
>>Oh for f*** sake.

>If you were going to pick a time to temporarily close a world renowned
>tourist destination to evaluate cultural and archaeological issues; surely
>during a global travel ban while the entire state is in lockdown would
>cause the least disruption to user groups?
>I have no idea what the facts are but I imagine they've seized the opportunity
>to fast track some of this stuff.

Itís a valid point, but local travel restrictions will be over soon (and this makes up the majority of climbers in the Grampians anyway). I donít think that this will be fast-tracked in anyway, and that these bans are likely to persist long after life starts returning to normal.

>I've been following the Onsight blog and the SaveTheGrampians blog; and>have to say - the UK Climbing article above has provided more information
>on indigenous perspective in a short few paragraphs than in the dozens
>of articles on those other sites.

Iíve not read the article, but I totally understand that when there is such limited tangible historical evidence, protecting as much is possible is a worthwhile exercise.

I donít think that SaveTheGrampians or Simon Carter are obliged to argue for anything other than the climbers perspective, and defend the allegations that we have been bolting art, and willingly vandalising significant sites. Climbers were accused of highly inappropriate if not illegal activities. Why would they argue in favour of their accusers position? I am aware of this broad use of language and donít mean to imply that all or indeed any Aboriginal groups are making this accusation, itís been Parks really, and I accept that middle ground has to be found between all users with protection of cultural heritage is paramount. I am however grateful for those who are taking up the cause on MY behalf.

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