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VCC and ACAV, together on the sand??? 23-Sep-2019 At 9:02:35 AM kieranl

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On 23-Sep-2019 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 22-Sep-2019 Silver_13 wrote:
>>This in turn does mean that climbers should be allowed
>>free reign because we do a lot less damage than day visitors (let alone
>>PV themselves)
>
>No the fuch it doesn't! We need to be a responsible, self-regulating user
>group who demonstrate that we have limited scope to our ambitions and that
>we'll come down hard on members of the community who display gross disregard
>for common sense.

And this is a rare occasion where ODH and me are in total agreement.

I believe in the value of Cultural Heritage but if you don't, there is also a totally pragmatic view: the Traditional Owners have the power here. There are legal rpowers relating to Cultural Heritage and current and pending Land Rights determinations. Then there are moral powers. Have a look at the Western Highway where a rag-tag camp has held up a multi-million dollar project for a couple of years. Imagine if Muline was unambiguously re-opened and a single TO set up camp under it in protest. That would just shut it down. That's the sort of power we are talking about.

The internet is a public space. What is said here is public and, trust me, every party with an interest in the climbing issue reads it. So think about what you are going to write and who is going to read it.