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VCC and ACAV, together on the sand??? 23-Sep-2019 At 8:42:58 AM Dave_S

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On 22-Sep-2019 nmonteith wrote:
>The bolts placed near rock art at Black Ians and the Black Range were removed
>almost immediately (back in 2017 I believe).

I might be wrong - I'm just going on what came out of CliffCare negotiations at the time, which was that climbers should not go immediately removing bolts at sensitive sites, as the removal could cause further damage.

On 23-Sep-2019 One Day Hero wrote:
>People are massively critical of the vcc for not doing enough

Even worse, people are massively critical of the VCC for entirely different and inconsistent reasons at different times. Remember the new route moratorium, which was proposed, in the hopes of averting action from Parks, as a demonstration of self-regulation? That was rejected by climbers at the time as being unnecessary. One prominent Nati guidebook author even called it a betrayal of the climbing community by the club.