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VCC and ACAV, together on the sand??? 21-Sep-2019 At 6:22:29 AM nmonteith

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On 18-Sep-2019 gfdonc wrote:
>Is the "do not add" message intended to appear against all cliffs? Anyone
>know why?

I think it's pretty well known that new routes added to an inappropriate place got us into this mess - and also dodgy stats about growth generated from thecrag.com were used as evidence against climbers. I personally think it's wise to stop developing new routes when we have already lost over 30% of the climbing and trying to get that back. I'm not convinced there is another Eureka Wall or Muline out there waiting to be discovered to replace the real ones. The biggest concern from TOs and PV is that areas currently unharmed could potentially be harmed by climbers in the future. We have to remember that the routes in Black Range are on a crag that still isn't an SPA (it's not even in the Grampians).